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Post by Adam on Dec 7, 2009 15:04:58 GMT -1
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Post by potia on Dec 15, 2009 11:39:13 GMT -1
Bronze Age People left flowers at grave - www.gla.ac.uk/news/headline_138598_en.html"Archaeologists from the Universities of Glasgow and Aberdeen have found proof that pre-historic people laid flowers at the graves of their dead."
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Post by clare on Dec 16, 2009 16:07:08 GMT -1
There's good evidence that (one group of) Neolithic people left flowers in a burial site, at Shanidar 4. (I'd like to believe I have more shared genetic stuff with Neanderthals than HSS's, and just refuse to consider the science!)
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Post by Sìle on Dec 22, 2009 17:52:00 GMT -1
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Post by Tegernacus on Dec 22, 2009 19:18:53 GMT -1
I think the Summer solstice has been hijacked and overcrowded by hippy types. Combined with the research and realisation that the Winter solstice was probably MORE important than the summer one... (in the past I think paganism in general refused to acknowledge that on the grounds that it's Christmas dammit....)
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Post by megli on Dec 22, 2009 20:26:50 GMT -1
How sweet!
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Post by Tegernacus on Dec 23, 2009 18:59:10 GMT -1
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Post by Francis on Dec 23, 2009 21:35:03 GMT -1
(I'd like to believe I have more shared genetic stuff with Neanderthals than HSS's, and just refuse to consider the science!) According to some (the evidence doesn't wholly convince me - although it does offer some support to the notion) your aspiration for Neanderthal genetic heritage could be made good if you've got a large bump on the lower back part of your skull! Technically it's know as the "occipital bun or bump". Some authorities suggest its presence in modern humans reveals a merging between the two sub-species. Google it, I guess? (I seem to remember there's a higher than average incidence of it amongst the Basques and people of Eryri.) You might like Björn Kurtén's "Dance of the Tiger" - It's a novel about the interaction between Neanderthals and modern humans, the language isn't beautiful, but the science behind the possible scenario is very good. The story is in large part about the effects of the hybridisation of the two. He proposes it might follow the bizarre and not fully understood pattern of Haldane's rule - which back when I thought the life of academia might have been for me I spent 4 years looking at in closely related species of grasshopper! (Try telling your grandad you do that for a living :-) )
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Post by arth_frown on Dec 24, 2009 9:16:55 GMT -1
Just read about it on the wild hunt. Another blunder "Pagan leader Arthur Pendragon said: "It is the most important day of the year for us because it welcomes in the new sun. " LOL really? then he is about four days out.
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Post by megli on Dec 24, 2009 10:49:51 GMT -1
Drunken arse.
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Post by Francis on Dec 24, 2009 11:42:14 GMT -1
If only it was just his arse...
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Post by arth_frown on Dec 24, 2009 19:33:55 GMT -1
About 600 turned up on the right day.
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Post by Tegernacus on Dec 26, 2009 18:26:34 GMT -1
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2009 1:08:24 GMT -1
Just a question.......
you're using the Telegraph as a (reliable?) source to report Arthur Pendragon's views as relevant to 300 individuals that turned up (according to English Heritage);
is that really a reliable audit trail?
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Post by Tegernacus on Dec 27, 2009 5:40:09 GMT -1
no, but I was pointing to the (negative) publicity accrued by said (non) event, not whether it was true or not.
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Post by Francis on Dec 27, 2009 10:17:46 GMT -1
Just a question....... you're using the Telegraph as a (reliable?) source to report Arthur Pendragon's views as relevant to 300 individuals that turned up (according to English Heritage); is that really a reliable audit trail? Did anyone here declare his views were relevant to the 300 party-pagans who turned up on the wrong day? There are pictures of him at their centre whilst the crowd listens to his meanderings though. Would they want this genuinely dedicated but drunken arse as part of the days 'show' if he was 5' 6", skinny and bald - or does his Hollywood inspired look provide the glamour they need their paganism to provide? I'm not stating that as a fact Paul - I'm asking the question.
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Post by Francis on Dec 27, 2009 11:26:58 GMT -1
I often wonder if this sort of thing is a bit like saying Iron can help with congestive heart disease? Combined with carbon to form steel and then shaped into surgical instruments - Iron can then be used to perform triple bypass surgery. I know I'm being flippant but typically drugs derived from plants have been chemically modified to a degree comparable to that of making a surgeon's scalpel from raw iron ore. The plant provides a base compound that is extracted and purified, before chemically modified to further improve its benefits. From my perspective there's no gain to mistletloe's 'magical' reputation from its new role in bowel cancer treatment. I'm not suggesting you are for a minute btw- but it is a personal gripe of my grumpy self that so many neo-pagans seem to feel this sort of thing is evidence of the natural benevolent relationship between humans and particular plants - Aspirin is derived from willow, but that doesn't indicate anything about willow's compassion for the suffering of humans in pain... or about the specific nature of the potential human willow relationship
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Post by Tegernacus on Dec 27, 2009 14:34:12 GMT -1
heheh.... yeah. I'm just a fan of them finding new ways of using things that are just lying around. Not a fan of things being synthesised all the time. Not that natural things are necessarily better (functionality wise), just that they are often gentler (on the patient)
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Post by Tegernacus on Dec 28, 2009 7:37:24 GMT -1
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