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Post by arianrhod on Feb 23, 2007 21:55:57 GMT -1
Arianrhod here.....wanting to find out more about welsh witchcraft (the basics with the ceremonial gumff) LOL
Please to meet you people
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Post by littleraven on Feb 24, 2007 8:42:28 GMT -1
Hello there, hope you find something of interest - and I'm sure you will. These boards are superb reading material by themselves, and Blackbird has put together a superb set of reference material on the main site.
When you say 'Welsh witchcraft' do you mean historically, or what people are doing today?
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Post by Brochfael on Feb 24, 2007 16:04:32 GMT -1
Wotcher
Welcome, Hope you enjoy us and get a lot out of us
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Post by Craig on Feb 24, 2007 17:08:35 GMT -1
Welcome aboard Arianrhod.
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Post by Sìle on Feb 24, 2007 17:30:50 GMT -1
Hello Arianrhod,
I, too, have only recently joined. I hope you find what you seek.
Cheers, Webwitch ;D
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Post by Midori on Feb 25, 2007 9:08:12 GMT -1
welcome, Arianrhod.
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Post by arianrhod on Feb 26, 2007 1:41:19 GMT -1
Hello there, hope you find something of interest - and I'm sure you will. These boards are superb reading material by themselves, and Blackbird has put together a superb set of reference material on the main site. When you say 'Welsh witchcraft' do you mean historically, or what people are doing today? Historically and putting them into context....just now I am following pictish or can confirm to pictish witchcraft and I just think with having a welsh goddess as a chosen "craft" name, there must be something there. I am looking through websites and there is little on p8ictish crafts....
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Post by Blackbird on Feb 26, 2007 20:15:18 GMT -1
Aye, you'll find much of the 'Pictish' stuff is very modern in origin. Not that there's anything wrong with that per se... but really, we know very little about the Picts at all, so the only stuff around is the modern Wicca derived stuff. Afaik, anyway. Arianrhod is interesting... if you look back through the boards you'll find discussions we've had on Her in the past. Hopefully be something useful there. Welcome to Caer Feddwyd
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Post by littleraven on Feb 26, 2007 20:19:45 GMT -1
Hello there, hope you find something of interest - and I'm sure you will. These boards are superb reading material by themselves, and Blackbird has put together a superb set of reference material on the main site. When you say 'Welsh witchcraft' do you mean historically, or what people are doing today? Historically and putting them into context....just now I am following pictish or can confirm to pictish witchcraft and I just think with having a welsh goddess as a chosen "craft" name, there must be something there. I am looking through websites and there is little on p8ictish crafts.... Wasn't it Buckland who produced the 'Pictish witchcraft' book a few years ago? It would be useful if you elaborated on this,as if you are basing what you do on this it is taken in much the same light as '21 Lessons of Merlyn' is to people of the Brythonic persuasion.
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Post by arianrhod on Feb 27, 2007 0:19:06 GMT -1
I'm trying to do the old celtic ways but seem a little tangled but I love the welsh pantheon and Irish...basically I think I'm trying to be on the celtic witchcraft as opposed to wicca which is totally not me.....I think I am being called to the more welsh aspects of the craft......after all the olden people may not have all the madness with circles and the like....I prefer to do it like they did it many moons ago....but slightly modernised equipment 8)
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Post by littleraven on Feb 27, 2007 1:05:54 GMT -1
You'll have to forgive the occasional pedantic question that I may come out with, but something in your statement begs me to ask 'what exactly are the old Celtic ways?'
What you seem to be saying here is essentially a very modern idea. If you are trying to look past the modern and strip it down to the essentials, you may find what you have left disconcertingly sparse.
But what you have left is like a cordon bleu meal, tiny portions but oh the taste and the skill in the crafting, the art in the presentation. Everything else will be like MacDonalds.
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Post by arianrhod on Feb 27, 2007 1:55:49 GMT -1
Trying to do things without overdoing the ceremony so to speak.....CR so to speak
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Post by littleraven on Feb 27, 2007 16:18:20 GMT -1
Trying to do things without overdoing the ceremony so to speak.....CR so to speak Please, you'll have to clarify, what 'old celtic ways' are you trying to do? That would be a good place to start discussion.
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Post by arianrhod on Feb 28, 2007 0:57:33 GMT -1
Worshipping as they did in the times of when there was more pagans, Aranrot and all the witches etc and being traditional I suppose in a way.....(there is no many things)
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Post by littleraven on Feb 28, 2007 10:42:07 GMT -1
Worshipping as they did in the times of when there was more pagans, Aranrot and all the witches etc and being traditional I suppose in a way.....(there is no many things) Okay, I think I get what you're saying. One thing you'll often find in this company is that people here don't 'worship' their Gods, but foster a relationship with them. It creates an entirely different dynamic and people will seek to learn more, so that their relationship is improved much the same way as you would seek to understand a lover. But 'worshipping' as they did in the past - well we know so little of the actual methods, but we can develop our own methods as our relationship and understanding develops. Much more satisfying IMHO, than being in church where they do things because thats the way it's done. LR
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Post by wortmistress on Mar 1, 2007 12:43:20 GMT -1
As someone who follows a Trad. Craft. path in Wales I felt I must give my tuppence worth! There are various forms of modern Welsh Witchcraft, some with a great deal of Wiccan flavour. You will find that Crafters such as I are very guarded about what we do, and indeed no crafter will do the same. If you want to learn, can I point you to a starting point? Read,read, read... Read about the local customs,folklore, the Mabinogon, history and characters of the land where you reside. Make contact on a regular basis with the land. Avoid books with Wicca/Witchcraft etc. in the title and look in the non-obvious places. I could, of course, be assuming that by Welsh Witchcraft you are referring to Wicca(as with Buckland). Wicca and True Witchcraft are quite different. The path can be dark, painful, and you can be revealed things that you really could have done without!! saying that, my life has been so enriched recently and my path is deepening day by day....
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Post by Craig on Mar 2, 2007 6:43:53 GMT -1
Ah... feral witchcraft then
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Post by wortmistress on Mar 2, 2007 6:53:47 GMT -1
Ah... feral witchcraft then That's a new term on me but fits like the ol' proverbial glove!
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Post by arianrhod on Mar 4, 2007 0:31:35 GMT -1
I meant fostering but my mind went wanky there......most wiccans worship more than actually building a relationship of love and respect, if you want to umbrella it, I live in a "celtic" area and am actually interested in the folklore as well as the "magic"......
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