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Post by Tegernacus on Sept 9, 2008 7:08:42 GMT -1
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Post by Blackbird on Sept 9, 2008 11:22:06 GMT -1
Dear me!
I've not heard anything about 'Braveheart in a Bra' for a few years now - hopefully he's ditched the idea, perhaps because he's realised he can't blame that one on the English ;D
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Post by littleraven on Sept 9, 2008 14:10:45 GMT -1
The 'Braveheart in a Bra' thing is still on afaik, but Gibson's involvement was purely as the guy who owns the production company. Last time I heard it was titled 'Warrior Queen' but information was scant.
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Post by littleraven on Sept 9, 2008 14:12:10 GMT -1
But then re: Ken Russell I should also like to add 'Lair of the White Worm'. Classic.
Hugh Grants first film, and he won't t talk about it. 'nuff said.
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Post by arth_frown on Sept 9, 2008 15:59:43 GMT -1
Dear me! I've not heard anything about 'Braveheart in a Bra' for a few years now - hopefully he's ditched the idea, perhaps because he's realised he can't blame that one on the English ;D I'm sure he will and put in a Christian message as well. ;D
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Post by littleraven on Sept 9, 2008 17:11:57 GMT -1
Dear me! I've not heard anything about 'Braveheart in a Bra' for a few years now - hopefully he's ditched the idea, perhaps because he's realised he can't blame that one on the English ;D I'm sure he will and put in a Christian message as well. ;D As the wife of a client king she had travelled to Rome and heard Paul preach. She brought the message back to Britannia, where the English, sorry Romans, tortured her because of her christian message. Job done.
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Post by Blackbird on Sept 11, 2008 9:39:34 GMT -1
That sounds about right ;D
Let's hope Mr Gibson isn't a secret member of CF... don't want to be giving him ideas...
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Post by Tegernacus on Sept 11, 2008 9:43:44 GMT -1
no no, I hope he IS a secret member of CF. He should get the members to be advisers on it.
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Post by Blackbird on Sept 11, 2008 10:23:32 GMT -1
That could be fun... (Bring on the elephants! Yes, Mr Gibson, of course they had elephants in iron age Britain... and those bottles of lager are also completely in keeping with the period... now where's my authentick minigun? Props!)
;D
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Post by Tegernacus on Sept 11, 2008 10:29:52 GMT -1
well, they had monkeys. they found a monkey skull somewhere. or was it a lion? one of those jungle-type animals, anyhow.
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Post by littleraven on Sept 11, 2008 14:08:09 GMT -1
well, they had monkeys. they found a monkey skull somewhere. or was it a lion? one of those jungle-type animals, anyhow. That was under the big house at Tara IIRC, it was a monkey.
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Post by Tegernacus on Sept 11, 2008 14:51:06 GMT -1
that's the one. and since the Romans never ventured to Ireland (outside a small landing party, apparently), then I can imagine there being some very exotic creatures in some of the upper-Roman ranks in Britain. Elephant? Claudius had some shipped over in 43 to Colchester, apparently (show-off). Doubt they rode them into battle against the Iceni, but they certainly had some at the time. Cue flashback scene where a younger Prasutagus and Boudica go to Colchester to officially surrender to Claudius, and are amazed by his big pachyderm...
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Post by littleraven on Sept 11, 2008 15:15:24 GMT -1
that's the one. and since the Romans never ventured to Ireland (outside a small landing party, apparently), then I can imagine there being some very exotic creatures in some of the upper-Roman ranks in Britain. Elephant? Claudius had some shipped over in 43 to Colchester, apparently (show-off). Doubt they rode them into battle against the Iceni, but they certainly had some at the time. Cue flashback scene where a younger Prasutagus and Boudica go to Colchester to officially surrender to Claudius, and are amazed by his big pachyderm... The Romans had a fairly large fort near to Dun Leoghaire. Info on it is quite scarce, it was 10yrs after finding it they even made it public.
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Post by Tegernacus on Sept 11, 2008 17:10:05 GMT -1
hmmm.. I heard there were Roman camp remains on the coast, but not a fort. Have to look into that, cheers.
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Post by littleraven on Sept 14, 2008 23:26:24 GMT -1
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Post by Tegernacus on Sept 15, 2008 9:39:38 GMT -1
fascinating. I would have said that the presence of Roman things was more down to trade with the Romano-Brits, but the evidence does seem to contradict that. Strange that if Ireland did have a Roman structure, that it was forgotten or hushed-up. (The post-Roman Brits were very proud to be Romano, and that has persisted throughout British history.) Although that brings up other conundrums, like... if Ireland was a Roman colony too, then Christianity would probably have arrived there earlier than previously thought? And that old Irish has a lot of latin words (although Megli will probably correct me on that) seems to suggest the link was strong too.
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Post by littleraven on Sept 15, 2008 14:40:23 GMT -1
I am intrigued by the Roman connection in Ireland, it does seem to throw up some questions that no one seems to want to answer.
For one, if the Druids retreated to Ireland (as some lore says) then why didn't they try to raise opposition? The Romans recorded how Britain was a haven for Gaulish resistance, why not Ireland for Britain? Of course there are records of an Irish 'prince' working for the Romans at the time of the Brigantian rebellion (IIRC).
Why didn't they invade en masse? If there was financial gain I have no doubt the Romans would have invaded. If there was political opposition I have no doubt either.
The only reason I can justify is that Ireland simply wasn't significant enough.
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Post by Tegernacus on Sept 15, 2008 15:36:47 GMT -1
apparently the city of Deva was set up with the express intention of being a staging post and building an armada to invade Ireland. However, at some point this was abandoned and all the forces moved up to the wall, which kind of backs up the assumption that they had more pressing and important matters to attend to than colonising Eire.
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Post by littleraven on Sept 15, 2008 21:14:43 GMT -1
apparently the city of Deva was set up with the express intention of being a staging post and building an armada to invade Ireland. However, at some point this was abandoned and all the forces moved up to the wall, which kind of backs up the assumption that they had more pressing and important matters to attend to than colonising Eire. You been watching 'MegaFortress' on the History channel? ;D
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