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Post by potia on Mar 29, 2010 13:01:22 GMT -1
I can't come down till Saturday. I'll be being full time mum on Friday I'll also need to return on Sunday afternoon. As last time I'll be travelling on the train but I've still to book it. Great to hear you, Brochfael and Lynne can be there DG. I don't think I've met Brochfael yet. Re the ritual end of things. Would anyone mind if I sang again? Not everyone that will be present has heard the song to the gods of the tribe that I crafted last year and it's important to me for you to hear it if you haven't. Edit: I'm talking rubbish above and muddling my weekends! It's this Friday I'll be full time mum and at the May weekend I will be at work on Friday. While I will have the May Monday off I'm not sure if my other half will and anyway it's not really fair to leave him alone with the kids for a whole weekend
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Post by Francis on Mar 29, 2010 13:28:23 GMT -1
peachy can we make some tentative plans for meeting up somewhere and somewhen on the fri or sat? Good idea. First off can I ask if anyone's going to be coming by car? Hopefully at least someone will be as we'll need a couple of cars so we can cheat (and gain most of the distance and height by car) or we won't have enough time. I suggest meeting up on the Friday for anyone who can make it? We'll camp either in the woods or down by the river - There won't be mountain ponies there this year, just wethers and rams. (Still it might be good to spend some time with these - more than half their ancestry is Welsh Mountain from the Carneddau (the mountains we'll be moving up in to) so their many times great grandparents will have made this journey. Their form and specific individual makeup carries this memory and song in a very physical sense i.e. perhaps in a great storm of long ago some sheep found sufficient shelter in the particular form and rocks of the land, others sheltering in less suitable places perished - and the particular individual sheep you might be looking at today perhaps has the brown speckling on its nose (or whatever) inherited from it's long distant forebear who survived because of the shelter from some great boulder up in the mountains - and that boulder or dip in the ground is still there today - the only 'memory' of each and every great storm and the relationship of sheep to mountain, and ultimately to the prospering or not of human families is still witnessed today in the makeup of the sheep of this area . Sounds cheesy but I really don't think it is!) I'll put up at least one big round tent we can all fit in on Friday. Please feel free to arrive as early as you want - the earlier the better really as you can help me set up!! - but also get a feel for the lowland here, before moving up to the highlands. Remember there is going to be some walking involved (and you'll have to carry everything you'll need for one night) but we'll go with the flow and see what people want to do when everyone's actually here. Some of us will be fitter than others, and just as would have been the case in the past we'll get each other up there. Dreamguardian have you got a water filter? - I drink the water from Dulyn myself as it comes, but I know many people are uncomfortable doing this, and of course the last thing anyone will want to carry uphill is lots of heavy water! What shall we do for food?
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Post by Francis on Mar 29, 2010 13:31:54 GMT -1
looking forward to seeing you again Lee. Will you be comming by train - and if so do you need picking up from anywhere?
I can get you from Llandudno Junction - but if you're lucky with connection times you might be able to get to Dolgarrog?
P.S. if you do get on that train remember to tell the driver you want to stop at Dolgarrog
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Post by Francis on Mar 29, 2010 13:42:35 GMT -1
Do we need a Plan B?
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Post by Lee on Mar 29, 2010 14:07:52 GMT -1
ok, well it seems i can get to Dolgarog no bother at all - request stop only of course - so can arrive at either 13:47 on the friday or 16:47 on the friday. how does this tie in with other people arriving? or being in the area? im cool with drinking from the river/lake as to food - i will have a think - will we have an open fire type of arrangement ? i might be able to think or something that can be brought and cooked on that which isnt too heavy to carry around. finally ritual - i would love to hear you sing Potia other than that, something as the fire is first lit might be appropriate.
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Post by potia on Mar 29, 2010 16:28:22 GMT -1
I'd be willing to cook up some porridge for Sunday morning if we can get the makings together and a suitable pot between us. I can bring oats if someone else can bring a pot, water is there and some dried fruit and honey would be a nice addition. I'm perfectly willing to drink water from the river/lake. Francis, does the bothy have a toilet of some kind or will it be spades again
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Post by potia on Mar 29, 2010 21:06:24 GMT -1
ok, well it seems i can get to Dolgarog no bother at all - request stop only of course - so can arrive at either 13:47 on the friday or 16:47 on the friday. how does this tie in with other people arriving? or being in the area? I thought it would be travel down Saturday and back up Sunday for me but Virgin are doing major work on the line between Lockerbie and Oxenholme which is making me re-think. After talk to my other half I may now be coming down on Friday after all.
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Post by Heron on Mar 29, 2010 21:30:12 GMT -1
I hope you will sing Potia :-)
I'll arrive by car on Friday evening, not sure exactly when - depends how early I can arrange to leave work. But should be there around 6.00pm. , maybe earlier.
Looking forward to meeting those of I haven't met before.
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Post by dreamguardian on Mar 30, 2010 6:27:54 GMT -1
...We'll camp either in the woods or down by the river - There won't be mountain ponies there this year, just wethers and rams. (Still it might be good to spend some time with these - more than half their ancestry is Welsh Mountain from the Carneddau (the mountains we'll be moving up in to) so their many times great grandparents will have made this journey. Their form and specific individual makeup carries this memory and song in a very physical sense i.e. perhaps in a great storm of long ago some sheep found sufficient shelter in the particular form and rocks of the land, others sheltering in less suitable places perished - ...... Sounds cheesy but I really don't think it is!) Not cheesy at all, Stephen. I'm already there! Doesn't bother us & if anyone is that worried then just boil for 4 minutes. You should never wish your life away but I really can't wait.
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Post by potia on Mar 31, 2010 18:52:23 GMT -1
Well that's my travel booked now. I'll be getting into Lladudno junction at 18.48 Friday 30th April all going well. Trust Virgin to be doing major rail work on the May weekend. A trip that will take me just over 4 hours on the way down is going to take me close to 8 hours on the way back up on Sunday! I'm really looking forward to seeing you all and being in Wales again
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Post by Lee on Mar 31, 2010 21:05:50 GMT -1
ok, i have adjusted my trains and will arrive shortly before Potia in LLan. Jct too... to make it easier on picking up etc
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Post by Francis on Apr 1, 2010 9:09:39 GMT -1
I thought it would be travel down Saturday and back up Sunday for me but Virgin are doing major work on the line between Lockerbie and Oxenholme which is making me re-think. After talk to my other half I may now be coming down on Friday after all. That's great news Potia! I'm sure Saturday will feel much more relaxed if we're all there on Friday. We can start fairly early and just amble our way up to Dulyn. Let's hope the weather's clear. The moon will be pretty much full and it doesn't get better than walking by moonlight in the hills when the weather's kind. Legend has it that on the shore of Dulyn there is an Allor Goch - a red altar- the belief was that anyone who was brave enough to keep vigil on this rock on Mayday, Midsummer or Halloween would learn all of those they knew who were to die over the next 12 months! (unfortunately the new dam has raised the water level over the height of the rock). Other legends are based on predicting the future by watching birds over the lake - most famously a dove indicates the imminent death of a witch also a sparrow domestic bliss, a kingfisher soon to be found wealth - There are more but I'll have to look them up (every chance this is just a Victorian thing, unless anyone knows of any similar associations, although the location may have spared it from this?
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Post by arth_frown on Apr 8, 2010 16:58:48 GMT -1
Sadly I'm not coming this time. Been very busy of late. Have a good time and report back what going on.
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Post by Blackbird on Apr 12, 2010 8:10:08 GMT -1
Hope you all have a wonderful time!
As you can imagine, May is one of my busiest months (though I always thought it was supposed to be unlucky to marry in May, obviously nobody else thinks so...) and that weekend has been booked up for a long time. Hopefully meet up with some of you again over the winter, if not before!
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Post by Adam on Apr 12, 2010 18:13:21 GMT -1
I must add my voice to the growing list of absenteeists... that will be the first weekend in a couple of months that my wife will not have to dedicate to writing essays for her masters and I will be spending it with her before the dissertation kicks in
To a future time, as I would love to meet you in the flesh and make it real as it were
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Post by redraven on Apr 14, 2010 15:45:07 GMT -1
My Edinburgh trip has fallen through for a variety of reasons. Which means my Mayday weekend is now free. So......
RR
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Post by potia on Apr 14, 2010 19:19:04 GMT -1
My Edinburgh trip has fallen through for a variety of reasons. Which means my Mayday weekend is now free. So...... RR So you are coming? Yes? Hope so
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Post by redraven on Apr 15, 2010 17:39:24 GMT -1
So you are coming? Yes? Hope so Well, seeing as you asked , provided others are also happy about the prospect. RR
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Post by redraven on Apr 16, 2010 19:01:40 GMT -1
Judging by the lack of feed back from the rest of the attending people (apart from Potia), would my attendance be problematic because you have the optimal number of people required / agreed and therefore my late inclusion may represent a problem? (I'm not going off on a neo-pagan spat or trying to turn this into a popularity contest, but if my inclusion is a problem because of agreed numbers, logistics or whatever, which would be a reasonable position, I want to know now so that I don't invest in holidays, fuel expenses and time in a fruitless weekend endeavour!)
RR
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