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Post by jainewinterbourne on Feb 20, 2005 19:12:27 GMT -1
Must grumble about the lack of manners in society in general but it particularly irks me when 'pagans' are rude and ill mannered!
The times I've heard folk whitter on about death before dishonour, honour in the heart etc but you can't get a basic please, thank you or excuse me from them! Grrr!
Is it that folk think they lose personal power by being polite? I personally think that ones capacity to acknowledge how others interact with you positively is a power in itself.
yours grumblingly
Jaine
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Post by emrys on Feb 20, 2005 23:34:03 GMT -1
I agree with you, Jaine! But it isn't just pagans - its almost every aspect of society - we have all become so individualistic and selfish that even some of us pagans think that we are better than others.
There really is true power in being respectful of others.
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Post by siaron on Feb 21, 2005 0:24:55 GMT -1
Well, it's not only being respectful....how about being humble for a start? I think that humankind has just simply glossed over the fact that we should begin each day humble and grateful, and I think respect for others flows out from that. I have to say I just dropped off of another forum site because of the lack of respect, humility, and gratitude I saw there. There was surely a lot of talk, but no wisdom. I decided I couldn't waste my time there anymore...too much negative energy.
I am grateful to Blackbird for putting together this great site and for making me feel so welcome here. It seems like a truly nice group of people is being attracted to Caer Feddwyd.
Bendition,
Siaron
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Post by goldenhand on Feb 21, 2005 15:10:20 GMT -1
It's not just manners, as I see it... or rather, there is a bigger picture, the loss of responsibility and duty. I remember when I was a kid (just about!), I would never have cheeked my elders. These days, that automatic respect seems to have gone. I'm not saying for one minute that all kids are rude these days, but it's as if some part of the social structure has broken down. Maybe peopel are rude online, as it's essentially quite anonymous. Personally, even online I act with courtesy and respect, but it is easy not to. No one knows who you are, and there are no repercussions. If you hurt someone's feelings, it doesn't have to have any impact on your life. I do think there are two types of pagans - those who work internally and those who work externally. I'm about to reply to the polytheist thread, and this is relevant here too, perhaps. As a polytheist, my faith is about establishing relationships. With Gods, with ancestors, with wights - and with people too. An important part of this is knowing how to approach people. There are ways of speaking, ways of acting when you are part of such relationships, it lends itself to a kind of formality that has almost gone from modern society. If I wouldn't cheek my elders when I was a kid, I'm certainly not going to cheek the very-elders - ie. the Gods - now! ;D Blessings, Angharad PS I agree, this is a lovely place to be, many thanks Blackbird  |
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