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Post by chris on Dec 1, 2008 19:57:46 GMT -1
Well, I said I make things: www.skyravenwolf.comAnd I also appear to be somewhat tongue-tied tonight.
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Post by arth_frown on Dec 1, 2008 20:03:03 GMT -1
Love the La Tene drum
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Post by Tegernacus on Dec 1, 2008 20:28:04 GMT -1
I was going to ask where you got the skins from, but I see it's all ethical and sustainable, great stuff
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Post by chris on Dec 1, 2008 20:59:17 GMT -1
Yes, definitely ethical and sustainable. And low VOC dyes - that means I can breathe whilst I'm using them too.
Definite eco-advantage!
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Post by Lee on Dec 1, 2008 22:03:19 GMT -1
lovely stuff. you are just the person i have been looking for;
what do you recommend for painting a design onto leather? i have a dark brown lamb-skin i am turning into a banner. i want to do a white/very pale design on it and am not sure what paint/ink or dye is best.
any suggestions?
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Post by chris on Dec 2, 2008 7:02:51 GMT -1
Yes ..........
You can buy "special" leather paints called CovaColour but they're quite expensive and not all that nice. I can't see any difference between them and acrylic paints ........
So, if you go to your local art shop you can get those. As long as you don't paste them on really thickly they'll bind to the skin with no problems. If you're wanting white on dark brown you will probably have to use a few layers, but it's better to build up than to try to do it all in the one go.
The best white for opacity (always a problem) is Daler-Rowney's Cryla (Artists' Heavy Body Acrylic Colour) 009 Titanium White. Windsor And Newton's Finity range of Artists' Acrylic Colour is good too.
And, yes, I know, there are heavy metals in paint - but there always have been. There's actually very little titanium in acrylic titanium white, I think it's mainly a romantic name. Same with cadmium red ..... but if you get the hand made oil paints they still do have 'cos they're made to old recipes. At least they don't powder up lapis lazuli for the colour ultramarine any longer - that used to happen in the Renaissance. The blue on the altarpieces was rarer and more valuable than the gold.
Anyway, lee, hope that helps.
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Post by Lee on Dec 2, 2008 9:58:33 GMT -1
cheers chris, just what i am looking for.
will this acryplic stand up to being rolled up? the banner will be rolled when not in use so i was wondering if it will crack or wrinkel up and peel off. or is it rather durable?
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Post by chris on Dec 2, 2008 15:28:27 GMT -1
If you put it on in thin coats it will sink into the skin and be durable. Acrylic also has the advantage of inbuilt flexibility in any case - it's what I use to paint skin drums which also need to loosen and tighten with atmospheric humidity.
If the design on your banner uses largeish areas it might also help to put some varnish on carefully over the paint. That's what I do with the drums - they need to be able to stand up to a fair bit of bashing! If you want to keep the skin looking soft and natural you'll just have to stick to varnishing the painted areas.
I've experimented with a lot of different varnishes, some go sticky like PVA in the rain 'cos they're based on that kind of thing. The best one that I have ever found is Ronseal's Diamond Hard Floor Varnish 'cos it dries really quickly without any stickiness at all and you only need the thinnest of coats ... but I'm not sure if you can get it in little tins.
Otherwise, your friendly neighbourhood art shop should stock (or be able to get) Daler Rowney Soluble Varnish (matt or gloss) for use with acrylic paints. It comes in little 75ml bottles.
Alternatively you could try fabric paints. I've never used them on skins before but I see no reason why they shouldn't work - and then you wouldn't need the varnish. I use them on the flags and they're actually incredibly durable. Again you need to put them on in thin coats and you're supposed to iron them to fix them .......
But, having said that, I did a flag making workshop at Druid Camp. Everyone hung their flags up outside their tents (obviously without the benefit of ironing). It pissed with rain, the gales howled at times, and all the fabric paint stayed put. I was pleasantly surprised!
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Post by Lee on Dec 2, 2008 17:28:55 GMT -1
chris, this is superb. i will pop the art shop up the road this weekend and see what they have. i will give the acrylic a go first off.
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Post by chris on Dec 2, 2008 18:03:33 GMT -1
Essentially, it's all acrylic based stuff anyway - so 'tis a good place to start!
Please post a photo when it's done - I'm intrigued.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2009 13:03:14 GMT -1
Wow chris...I just keep loving your drums!!
Every time I watch at them I need to drool. You're very gifted...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2009 13:07:15 GMT -1
still in love with the one with the dives and poppy's, one of the first I saw of you, and the one called 'Bloddeuwedd's transformation' is also wonderful.
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