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Sept 12, 2006 7:38:12 GMT -1
Post by gwyfyn on Sept 12, 2006 7:38:12 GMT -1
Hello all,
My name's Ryan, and rather poor at introductions, as I've never joined a forum before, haha.
I'm ravenously interested in Celtic mythology, and have a desire to learn as much about Celtic religion and spirituality (are they synonyms or not? I'm not sure, haha) as I possibly can.
I hope to learn much from this site and to hopefully be able to contribute as well! Thanks, farewell and God(s/dess/es) bless! ;D
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Sept 12, 2006 10:25:37 GMT -1
Post by littleraven on Sept 12, 2006 10:25:37 GMT -1
Hello Ryan, hope you'll find it useful here, it's certainly a higher quality than most of the forums out there. Now, what's this 'Celtic mythology', I know Brythonic, or Irish, or Gaulish .........
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Sept 12, 2006 11:21:04 GMT -1
Post by Blackbird on Sept 12, 2006 11:21:04 GMT -1
Hello there Ryan, I'm honoured that you picked this as your first forum to join As LR says, 'Celtic' is a misleading word. Though there are some similarities between the various cultures, seeing them as the same is unhelpful... not to mention that many authors also try to treat the various cultures as timeless, as if a culture was identical in 600BCE and 600CE... Anyhow, most folks here are firstly involved with Brythonic stuff, though I know some also have lots of knowledge about Gaelic and Gaulish stuff... so it's still worth asking if you have questions about that too. Good luck
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Sept 12, 2006 11:31:52 GMT -1
Post by Heron on Sept 12, 2006 11:31:52 GMT -1
Hello Ryan (come, mothlike, to the light of this forum)
Are religion and spirituality (Celtic or otherwise) the same? Well I would say that 'religion' suggests and organised pattern of worship with more or less clear definition of the god(s) and usually also includes some sort of code of behaviour. Spirituality suggests something less defined and might simply be a state of mind, a feeling about the gods without necessarily being clear who they are.
Ultimately religion without spirituality is an empty social custom. Spirituality without religion might well lead to significant experience but without a structure and a focus, and more importantly something less easy to share with others.
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Sept 12, 2006 15:40:52 GMT -1
Post by Craig on Sept 12, 2006 15:40:52 GMT -1
Hi Ryan,
Ignore these tiresome pedants ;D
Blackbird has put together possibly the best resource on early british/celtic/brythonic/whatever lore you are ever likely to find.
When you have a question to which the answer is not easily at hand come to the forum. Here there are many people more than willing to see if they can help you find the answer.
Happy hunting, Craig.
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Sept 13, 2006 3:37:08 GMT -1
Post by gwyfyn on Sept 13, 2006 3:37:08 GMT -1
Thanks everyone! How kind you all are!
Haha, by Celtic I mean anything culturally (art/religion/etc) or linguistically Celtic. IE: Brythonic Celts, Goidelic Celts, Continental Celts.
It's just such a lovely umbrella word that I don't want to discard it! The various cultures did have considerable differences, including that of chronology (a Celt in 7th century BCE Gaul wouldn't be the same as a Celt in 7th century CE Wales, of course!) and differences in language, art, etc. However, there were many distinct similarities in the culture, and by Celtic I mean culures that share 'Celtic' attributes, ie: religion, language, and art.
I wonder if that clarified anything? hehe ;D
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Sept 13, 2006 5:35:25 GMT -1
Post by Craig on Sept 13, 2006 5:35:25 GMT -1
Hi Gwyfyn,
You are in real danger of setting off a debate in your introductory space. There are those here who have long dismissed the myth of the 'celt' and moved on. But we'll leave that for another thread.
Blessings, Craig.
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Sept 13, 2006 6:33:39 GMT -1
Post by Blackbird on Sept 13, 2006 6:33:39 GMT -1
It's one of those arguments that will go round and round and round ad nauseum... and often does... indeed, best left for another topic...
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Sept 13, 2006 19:32:14 GMT -1
Post by gwyfyn on Sept 13, 2006 19:32:14 GMT -1
i honestly didn't mean to, and i'm actually very sorry. forgive any of my indiscretions.
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Sept 13, 2006 19:45:04 GMT -1
Post by Heron on Sept 13, 2006 19:45:04 GMT -1
You are in real danger of setting off a debate in your introductory space. There are those here who have long dismissed the myth of the 'celt' and moved on. But we'll leave that for another thread. Gwyfyn replied: You don't need to be sorry. Personally I'm quite attached to the term 'Celtic' as a general descriptor of which "Brythonic' , 'Gaelic' etc are more precise ways of defining particular traditions. I'm all for dismissing the 'myth of the celt' but not for dismissing 'Celtic myth'. By all means be persuaded by argument, but don't be afraid of offending anyone.
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Sept 14, 2006 5:34:01 GMT -1
Post by Blackbird on Sept 14, 2006 5:34:01 GMT -1
Quite, no need to apologise ;D
Just one of those conversations we've had slightly too often... might be worth you looking through the Round Table posts for the last one, as there was some interesting stuff.
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Sept 17, 2006 0:42:31 GMT -1
Post by gwyfyn on Sept 17, 2006 0:42:31 GMT -1
well, that put fears of offending anyone to rest ;D
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