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Post by arth_frown on Jun 4, 2007 20:23:06 GMT -1
I recognize a few names here. Some might know me as Ranger on TDN, like Bram I'm also a member of the Ashdown grove. I own 6 acres of woodland in sussex of which I spend alot of my time hopefully if I get enough time I would love to build a Celtic shrine there, any ideas?
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Post by Craig on Jun 4, 2007 21:22:22 GMT -1
Hi arthfrown, Welcome to CF! You probably do know a lot of people here, quite a few of them TDN refugees Have a good explore of the resources Blackbird has put together and/or dive right into the fora. See you around.
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Post by littleraven on Jun 4, 2007 22:21:19 GMT -1
Hello Ranger, how's it going?
The shrine idea is certainly intriguing, would you be thinking along the lines of the 'standard' Romano-British built type, or something more 'natural'?
LR
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2007 7:50:56 GMT -1
Hi Ranger *waves*
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Post by arth_frown on Jun 5, 2007 8:10:24 GMT -1
Hi arthfrown, Welcome to CF! You probably do know a lot of people here, quite a few of them TDN refugees Have a good explore of the resources Blackbird has put together and/or dive right into the fora. See you around. Hi Craig nice to see you again, yep does look like a lot from TDN are here I'm glad you said refugees not me. Yep I'll have a look at Blackbirds resources.
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Post by arth_frown on Jun 5, 2007 8:19:16 GMT -1
Hello Ranger, how's it going? OK, yourself? The shrine idea is certainly intriguing, would you be thinking along the lines of the 'standard' Romano-British built type, or something more 'natural'? LR I was thinking of something pre roman, a circle of wooden posts about 10 meters wide and 6ft tall and maybe an inner circle of posts going by memory the opening was to the south east.
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Post by Lee on Jun 5, 2007 8:48:39 GMT -1
hello there, welcome to the site. im also intrigued by the shrine idea too. im thinking a deep pool a stone pillar with a hole carved into it filled with a human skull
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Post by littleraven on Jun 5, 2007 8:51:57 GMT -1
I was thinking of something pre roman, a circle of wooden posts about 10 meters wide and 6ft tall and maybe an inner circle of posts going by memory the opening was to the south east. I would suggest if you want something really evocative, start with a bank and ditch and put the posts inside it. Also, there is no reason to stick with circles. LR
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Post by arth_frown on Jun 5, 2007 9:16:58 GMT -1
hello there, welcome to the site. im also intrigued by the shrine idea too. im thinking a deep pool a stone pillar with a hole carved into it filled with a human skull I have few people who's skulls I'd like to use but sadly they are still alive, I'm sure they wouldn't mind me using their head as they don't use them any way.
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Post by arth_frown on Jun 5, 2007 9:22:12 GMT -1
I was thinking of something pre roman, a circle of wooden posts about 10 meters wide and 6ft tall and maybe an inner circle of posts going by memory the opening was to the south east. I would suggest if you want something really evocative, start with a bank and ditch and put the posts inside it. Also, there is no reason to stick with circles. LR Ah, I forgot about the bank and ditch I've read somewhere that they where also square or oblong
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Post by Francis on Jun 7, 2007 19:32:56 GMT -1
Hi Ranger (Do you prefer it if I call you Arthfrown here?) Good to see you here. I'd been hoping to speak to you at Druidcamp this year, about whether 'owning' your woods ever messes with your head? But we've decided not to go after all - I think the gap between myself and TDN is growing... ho hum. How do you find dealing with balancing public access and conservation (lets be honest sometimes these two aren't that compatible), and also other people's relationship with the woods? That the relationship isn't exclusive (can't be, shouldn't be, isn't even if you did want it ? How not to turn into a Norman overlord when you catch fourteen year olds 'poaching' rabbits with ferrets, and digging up half a little used badger set and a colony of Early Purple Orchids in the process. They have a deep relationship with these woods. on the edge of the village where they've lived all their lives. But then I've got obligations to care for what I've taken on. But should my idea of 'care' be more important than other folks, or be at the cost of the fullness of their relationship with these woods? Didn't mean for that to get specific - but just an example! Stephen
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Post by arth_frown on Jun 7, 2007 20:09:52 GMT -1
Hello Stephen
I prefer to be called Arth Frown or Arth will do, the brown bear is my animal guide and which my personailty best suits. Ranger was my nick name that was given to me last year by friends because I use to go ranging around the Ashdown Forest looking at the landscape. Shame your not going to camp this year it would of nice to meet up with you.
There is not public access to my woods, people used it as a dry foot path instead of the bridal way which is wet clay. But I've but up private property signs and a bar across the ride which has sorted that problem. I've told friends and family to use the woods freely spiritually or not.
How's your woods after the fire last summer?
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Post by Francis on Jun 11, 2007 10:28:23 GMT -1
Hi Arth Arth Frown wrote; I think this is often the big question when someone 'buys' land. I'm never sure what it can mean to own land, but to me it doesn't mean that I 'bought' an exclusive relationship with that land. There are other people who have a relationship with this land, some that I don't like and wish would choose not to come here. They do things here that I wish they wouldn't. But it isn't personal, it's about their relationship with this land not their relationship with me. (I don't mean their relationship with this land in any sense they would call spiritual- it's mainly thoughtless dog walkers). But if they are called to this place then by definition they have, whether on a conscious level or not, a relationship with this place - and by definition this place has a relationship with them. So I welcome all even though it'sthrough clenched teeth for some. I don't pretend sometimes I wouldn't like to build a ten foot wall around the place - But I wouldn't deny anyone, and just as importantly this place, any relationship that could grow. If anyone actually starts to abuse this wood though (as opposed to just doing something that I would prefer they didn't, but that ultimatley wouldn't have a negative impact on the wood in the long term (yes I know that's just my best, but I hope informed, guess of what will be a negative long term impact!)) then they had better watch out! Otherwise we'll have to agree to disagree on this one, but I'm no fan of "Private Keep Out" signs for the 'owners' privacy and exclusivity - where it's necessary in the short term for the benefit of the land and conservation issues then I think that's different. That's the oppinon of my thinking head but as I said I have to admit that in my heart I do often wish for a ten foot wall to keep folk out, I find they rarely do anthing that seems positive in woods. But if they never get to come and be in the local woods on their doorstep and build reltionship with them, then woods will never mean anything to them above bunging the Woodland trust a couple of quid a year. Arth wrote:It's amazing how quickly fire transforms a place. The fire didn't get up into the canopy and so only burned over a small area. Its actually quite amazing watching how quickly the area has become as green as anywhere else, some of the big oaks that were scorched seem to be limping on and the reality is that whilst I'm glad it was only a small area - the burned area is still as much woodland as anywhere else. I think the only thing upset at the time even was me! I now think wildfire changes the look of things quickly, but doesn't destroy- not that I would welcome it back again, but I wouldn't be as sad as I was after wildfire visited last time. Blessings Stephen
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Post by arth_frown on Jun 11, 2007 19:26:56 GMT -1
I'm no fan of keep out signs either, it was a last resort. There is a bridal way 20 metres from my woods which runs adjacent to my ride. My woods is only a small slither of a huge woods there are plenty of paths around for people to explore the woods. I don't like the idea that people are walking around the woods when my kids are playing there, maybe I'm being over protective.
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Post by Sìle on Jun 13, 2007 18:16:56 GMT -1
Hello Arthfrown and welcome to the fora. I own 6 acres of woodland in sussex of which I spend alot of my time ... Lucky you! I'm so jealous ...
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Post by Blackbird on Jun 14, 2007 9:04:12 GMT -1
Me too! I've got a lovely place here, but there's no garden at all... well, none that's mine to use anyway. Really shouldn't grumble about that though, it's lovely sitting at the window looking out at the swans and herons on the lake
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Post by arth_frown on Jun 14, 2007 18:43:31 GMT -1
Hi Webwitch and Blackbird
The woods are great, but are bloody hard work just think of it as 6 acres of garden. We are trying to restore it back to native woodland as a third of it is covered in spruce.
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