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Post by Blackbird on Jun 20, 2005 6:03:32 GMT -1
I'm presently working on an article which touches on snake lore, and thought it would also make a good topic for discussion.
If you read the works of the 18th century antiquarians and their successors, you would get an interesting impression of snake lore. Many of them were fixated on the idea that the snake was tremendously important, some even claiming that the ancient British religion centred around snake worship.
This idea was probably sparked by William Stukeley, who saw Avebury as a giant snake monument. His ideas were then taken up by others and elaborated upon. Perhaps the popularity of these ideas can be explained by the biblical association in the minds of those Christian scholars?
And yet, for an island upon which there are relatively few snakes, there is a surprising amount of snake imagery on items such as jewellery, inscribed stones, iconography etc.
It seems that, as the snake sheds its skin, that it was understood to possess regenerative powers. Such a creature would be truly ancient, and perhaps the holder of great wisdom. And so the snake holds the key to life and knowledge.
Does anyone have anything to add to this brief piece? Or I can elaborate on the above points, if folks want more information. It would be interesting to compile a small list of snake-related references in the Brythonic literature, and perhaps of snake imagery on artefacts etc.
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Post by siaron on Jun 20, 2005 18:33:23 GMT -1
Interesting, because the other day my friend asked me if I knew if there was any relationship between dragons and snakes, and it made me think of the other lore in the British Isles, namely "worms" (i.e. the Laidly Worm).
What if we are talking about essentially the same thing? I mean, what if in certain instances, the differences became flying dragon vs. water dragon vs. earth dragon. I don't know, but the folklore seems to cover all three. If you look historically at dragons, sometimes they have legs and sometimes they don't. And hasn't the Loch Ness monster historically been referred to as a water dragon?
The other interesting thing is the Oroborous, an obvious snake motif, as well as the ram headed snake that Cernnunos holds in his left hand. I've always wondered about that.
Sorry, I haven't answered any questions here--just raised more! This whole area of folklore/tradition is fascinating to me.
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Post by Blackbird on Jun 21, 2005 13:49:26 GMT -1
Yes, I think that in the earliest sources, dragons and serpents are interchangeable. From memory, I'm pretty sure that the legs and wings which we now associate with dragons, appeared later on. Can't remember when, offhand. The air/water/earth thing is an interesting idea I like that, though I do think that the snake can represent all three within itself. Air through the hissing. Water because the snake moves like rippling water (this analogy is explicit on some British iconography) and also because of the association of healing with the two. And earth because the snake can disappear through small holes down into the earth, and into caves - probably where the idea of dragons hoarding treasure below the ground comes from. This is all good stuff - giving me food for thought
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Post by siaron on Jun 27, 2005 3:51:37 GMT -1
Annwyl Blackbird, I came across this e-book on the Sacred Texts web site. This section deals with Welsh and British Dragon lore....might be of interest: www.sacred-texts.com/etc/ddl/ddl15.htmPob Bendith, Siaron
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Post by Blackbird on Jun 29, 2005 5:12:06 GMT -1
Great, many thanks for that - I'd found a couple of others on that site, but I'd not seen that one
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