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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2008 6:44:24 GMT -1
Francis said..
the community here isn't a customer base that must be held on to whatever the cost in spiritual dilution, for fear of a reduced bottom line at the end of the financial year.
Is that a general observation Francis, or are you meaning to imply that a particular "community" is just as you describe?
paul
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Post by Craig on Oct 30, 2008 7:03:55 GMT -1
I expect that Caerfeddwyd is a community that will endure whatever happens to Brython. It is hard to mentally separate them sometimes but CF is an independent institution that hosts Brython.
Brython itself is a tribe not a religion and as such can accomodate a fairly wide range of thoughts and practices. This is why I don't see a schism coming. Also as a tribe people will come and go and quite possibly come back again.
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Post by Francis on Oct 30, 2008 11:56:16 GMT -1
Francis said.. the community here isn't a customer base that must be held on to whatever the cost in spiritual dilution, for fear of a reduced bottom line at the end of the financial year.Is that a general observation Francis, or are you meaning to imply that a particular "community" is just as you describe? paul It is a reflection of my personal experience with OBOD - I don't suggest this is the 'collective opinion" of Caer Feddwyd as a tribe. Admittedly this experience is of some ten years ago, but I point out that there has been no choosing of chosen chiefs in that time. Have any accounts for that organisation ever been made public in that time? I wonder where the buck stops?
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Post by marcodubnos on Nov 15, 2008 18:48:12 GMT -1
I've read Stefan's statement, and all the responses to it on the OBODs message board, and now here.
I still don't know what the fuss is about. There are people everywhere who claim to be what they are so obviously not, and bards satirize them, and those who are daft enough to be taken in by them. This is clearly as it should be, and as it always has been, and may it always be so.
If you call yourself Taliesin, you'd better be a bloody good poet. If you call yourself King Arthur, you'd better be someone who can command the love and loyalty of men. If you call yourself a druid, you'd better be learned and not care that the Stalinists denounce you for having cosmopolitan tendencies. Call yourself an ovate and you'd better be able to do a Samhain rit without needing a torch to read your script in the dark. If you call yourself a Brython, you ought to consider learning Brythonic. And so on.
Lest someone self-styling as a bard be able to raise laughter at your expense.
Nick (who has been called many things in his time but owns to none of them).
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Post by Tegernacus on Nov 15, 2008 19:05:51 GMT -1
If you call yourself Taliesin, then that's fine, it's just a name. Like calling yourself Bob. If you claim to BE Taliesin, that's another thing. If you call yourself King Arthur, either you just landed a role in a new movie or you need therapy...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2008 14:12:14 GMT -1
Or you are the head of the 'loyal warband' thing I read about on the net...
I am doing to bardic course of the OBOD right now, and indeed I feel wuite bardic, if I may say so. I am a student of celtic history and literature, I play music, write poetry and speak a caltic language...Maybe I am not a 'bard' but at least 'bard in training'. You feel this is a ridiculous notion?
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Post by Adam on Nov 18, 2008 16:26:43 GMT -1
Or you are the head of the 'loyal warband' thing I read about on the net... I am doing to bardic course of the OBOD right now, and indeed I feel wuite bardic, if I may say so. I am a student of celtic history and literature, I play music, write poetry and speak a caltic language...Maybe I am not a 'bard' but at least 'bard in training'. You feel this is a ridiculous notion? I like bard in training... I would happily call myself and others that... I suspect I might be that when I die...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2008 14:47:55 GMT -1
You think you may be bard in training when you die, or a bard?
x Ennys, working hard to know as many Breton songs by hard as possible, hoping the count as poetry *grins*
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Post by Adam on Nov 24, 2008 18:55:01 GMT -1
Oh, in training always
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